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Feds want tighter rules to ground fly-by-night movers

May 11, 2010 · Leave a Comment

Industry Canada wants to tighten the rules for moving companies after a deluge of complaints from consumers who say they’ve been ripped off by crooked operators.

Armed with a cellphone and a Kijiji or Craigslist ad on the Internet, scam artists are preying on Canadians looking for cheap moving help, says the department.

“Complaints include holding furniture hostage at the destination until consumers pay more than the original estimate and producing new hidden costs such as packaging,” says an internal document.

“In some cases, the belongings are not delivered but are dumped or remain in warehouses and storage facilities. Consumers in this market are particularly vulnerable to such practices because of the ability of movers to confiscate or ransom their belongings.”

The Consumer Measures Committee, a federal-provincial group run by Industry Canada, launched a project last July to better monitor the household moving sector by analyzing consumer complaints.

“This work is in the very early stages of development and findings are not yet available,” department spokesman Michael Hammond said.

Regulation of the moving sector is largely a provincial responsibility, even though some moves cross provincial boundaries. Eight provinces have highway traffic legislation that governs the household-goods moving trade, with Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland and Labrador the exceptions.

Many provinces also have consumer protection laws, as does the federal government.

But industry players contacted by the committee in the last few months say officials want to end that patchwork coverage by harmonizing laws, regulations and practices across the country.

The 2006 census of Canada found that 1.2 million households had moved in the last five years. Some estimates say Canadians change addresses an average of 13 times through their lifetimes.

And the Canadian Council of Better Business Bureaus says complaints about movers were No. 7 on its Top 10 list of consumer beefs in 2009. Just over half of the 636 formal complaints about moving firms last year were settled.

An Industry Canada briefing note, obtained under the Access to Information Act, suggests about one of every four moves generates a consumer complaint.

The head of Canada’s largest industry group, the Canadian Association of Movers, supports harmonization but says the best protection for consumers is education.

“You have people having all their life possessions destroyed, stolen, rifled through, held for ransom, overcharged,” president John Levi said in an interview from the group’s Mississauga, Ont., headquarters.

But even with tougher regulations “there’s no government agency out there that can help you in a timely fashion.”

Consumers are understandably intimidated by large men suddenly demanding more cash before unloading the truck, Levi said.

“There’s sufficient legislation and regulation in place — if it were enforced.”

The best defence is to do some research, he said.

The mover’s association — with about 200 members, including big operators like Atlas, Allied, Mayflower, United, North American — certifies its firms after checking their standards and reputations, and having them sign a code of ethics.

The Better Business Bureau as well as Industry Canada posts consumer checklists and advice on moving on their websites. A joint consumer tips release is also planned shortly by the movers’ association and the business bureau.

Better Business Bureaus across Canada fielded almost 98,000 inquiries about moving companies last year, the second-most common query after consumer questions about roofing contractors.


Source:  Yahoo News
Dean Beeby, The Canadian Press

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Buyer Beware: Choose Your Moving Company Carefully

February 9, 2010 · 1 Comment

By Heather Rose

CBC reported on February 3rd that the moving company with the eye-catching name, Two Small Men with Big Hearts is one of the most complained-about movers across Canada.

With Better Business Bureau ratings of “F” for several locations, 150 lawsuits filed in British Columbia alone as well as pending government charges in Ontario, the company is accused of making misleading statements, renegotiating prices while holding customer’s possessions hostage and exceeding original estimates by more than 10 per cent, which is illegal under Ontario law.

Ontario’s Ministry of Consumer Services offers several tips for protecting ones self when choosing a moving company, including:

  • The phrase “you get what you pay for” holds true in situations like shopping around for moving companies, and cheaper discount movers, while many are reputable, may not be the best choice based on cost alone.
  • Research the company thoroughly, and ask around if any neighbours or friends have used the company before to gauge what their experiences were. The Better Business Bureau and the Ministry of Consumer Services both have online databases and the latter has a “Consumer Beware List”, which will provide a list of the company’s charges, violations, fines, convictions, names of persons charged as well as dates for all of the above.
  • Be aware of Ontario’s laws and regulations with regards to estimates. If the total price exceeds 10 per cent more than the original quote, or the company is obviously dragging through their work while you’re paying by the hour, you’ve got a legitimate complaint on your hands.
  • Always get the final contract in writing beforehand. You should never be forced to sign a new contract while your belongings are still in the possession of the company, and the threat of belongings not being delivered or being put into storage until you pay up should never be used against you.

Heather Rose is a Toronto based Journalist, who is a regular contributor to the Muddy York Real Estate Blog.  Heather website is located at heatherroseportfolio.squarespace.com.

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Before You Move: a Checklist

November 27, 2009 · Leave a Comment

Moving into a new home can be an exciting yet hectic experience, but careful planning can make the move much less stressful for you and your family.

Two months before moving day:

•               This is typically when you should give notice if you are leaving an apartment building, but because the time required can differ it’s best to check your lease with your landlord. If you don’t give the full amount of notice necessary, you may find yourself in a hassle and not get your full security deposit back.

•     It’s a good idea to begin researching moving companies to see which one will suit your needs at the best price. Booking far in advance shouldn’t be a problem, and make sure to identify what possessions needs special packing materials, like bubble wrap. The moving company may be able to supply these materials for you.

One month to three weeks before:

•     To make it easier on yourself down the road, begin packing any items that you rarely use or won’t need in the coming weeks, and get rid of anything you don’t need anymore that you could donate to charity or throw away. You can also begin disposing of anything that requires special care, such as chemicals. The less you actually have to move, the better.

•        Arrange for new phone or internet service at your new residence if you need to make an appointment for a technician to come out and set it up for you.

•        The paperwork: ensure you have set up mail forwarding and informed the following places of your address change: government offices for health cards, driver’s licenses and tax information, the dentist’s, doctor’s and veterinarian’s offices and your banking and credit card companies. Check that any insurance you have incorporates your new address and any car information or license plate tags are transfered if necessary. If you are moving far enough away, ensure the transfer of medical, veterinary and school records.

Two weeks before:

•     Cancel the newspaper subscription if necessary.

•        Return everything you’ve borrowed from neighbours. Be sure to get back everything you’ve lent out over the years too!

•        Make sure your utilities are set to be cancelled when you move and confirm your move with the moving company. Keep on packing!

One week to the day before moving day:

•     Confirm your moving date again with the company or any friends and relatives that might be helping you. Ensure everyone has accurate directions to your new home.

•        If you don’t need them for the time being, arrange your bedding and alarm clock in an “open first” box so you can set up your bed right away and get a decent night’s sleep the first day in your new home.

•        Begin prepping your larger items for the move by defrosting and emptying the refrigerator and taking apart larger furniture like beds or couches if possible.

Moving day:

•     Do a complete walkthrough of your home, opening every drawer, closet and cupboard to set your mind at ease and make sure you haven’t left anything behind.

•        If you currently have a landlord, invite them to inspect your empty residence with you to avoid any later complications.

•        Double check and record the readings on all utility meters, shut the doors and windows, and drop off any keys.

•        Try to be present when your things are loaded and unloaded in case the movers have any questions.

•        Prepare a suitcase with clothes and toiletries for the first night such as paper plates, plastic cutlery, garbage bags, drinks, Tylenol, snacks, toilet paper, soap or anything else you might need right away so it’s easy to get to. One of the fastest and easiest ways to feel at home is being able to get right back into your routine as soon as possible.

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Professionally Packing Your Home for the Move

September 11, 2009 · Leave a Comment

By Samuel Pack

Preparing for moving day will take anyone countless hours, it can range anywhere from 40 to 60+ hours depending on the size of your current home and the amount of belonging you own.moving1

It is said that a homeowner can pack generally 1 room a day; however this is a loosely based theory. In general it depends on one basic rule. That is how much personal items you have in the room, how quickly you work and how easily you are distracted.

One of thing you can definitely count on is underestimating the job.

It never hurts if you start packing in advance, even by a few months. You should be packing the rooms you use the least. As most of you probably know, de-cluttering your house is a key factor to showing your house to get the best value for it.

If you decide not to hire a professional to help you move, it is still possible to pack like one. You can pack like an expert, by thinking ahead to the unpacking.

If you have already found your new home and preparing for the move, you can easily decide where you will be unpacking.

When you are packing label boxes with the names of the rooms in the new home. By doing this you are giving simple instructions to anyone who is helping you unload the boxes into the new house.

Have a rough idea of where you want to put your furniture; it makes it easier in the unloading process. You can directly place where you want your furniture, taking away the hassle of you having to move large objects within the home.

When you are moving it is important that you use the proper labelling tool. You should be using a large marker, for example a sharpie and write in large letters the destination of the box and its contents.

By organizing before moving day, you are allowing it to be done quickly and smoothly.

Now if you are using professional movers to pack your belongings, they will make an inventory, numbering each box and labelling what room it came from. If you are doing the packing, you can take inventory of your belongings; however it can be unnecessary seeing as you will know exactly what is being packed and where it came from.

If you do want some peace of mind, then by all means take inventory, it is of course entirely up to you.

With this all said, I wish you well on the packing and of course the big day, moving day.

Samuel Pack is a Sales Representative with Royal LePage R.E.S. Johnston & Daniel Division.  Sam’s website is located www.primetorontoproperties.com.  Sam is a regular contributor to Toronto’s Muddy York Real Estate Blog.

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“BUYER BEWARE” …WORDS TO LIVE BY

March 27, 2009 · Leave a Comment

By Alain Lambert

Moving from one residence to another can be a stressful experience. By its very nature, moving disrupts your life. There are many decisions to be made and made details to be attended to. For some people it can be an overwhelming experience…especially if the move does not go well!

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Given these truisms, it is sometimes surprising how little thought many consumers give to choosing the right mover. All too often, they wait almost until their closing date to even start the process. Others use “lowest price” as their only criteria when deciding who will be entrusted with everything they own!

Unfortunately, consumers who do this often end up regretting their decision. They learn a hard lesson about the difference between “best price versus best value”. Newspapers, radio and television stories abound about customers who have had disappointing experiences with movers who did not deliver on their promises.

The media often reports on “moving horror stories”.  Last year, CTV’s “W-5” Program aired an expose on one such company and profiled a number of customers whose moves turned into virtual nightmares. You can read the transcript of the show or view a video at www.ctv.ca. Search for their W5 program archive. Other similar new stories have appeared on CBC Marketplace, NBC Dateline, and CBS News and in local stories all across North America. When interviewed, most admitted that they were partially to blame for not having done their homework before choosing their mover.

Some of the complaints in the W5 story  included:

  • Final price exceeded quoted price by 40% or more and furniture held for ransom until customer agreed to pay
  • Customers spent weeks trying to track whereabouts of their possessions
  • Mover misrepresented himself in yellow pages as being a member of a national van line
  • Customers advised that there would be no settlement for damaged items even though they had paid an additional premium for cargo protection
  • Delivery dates not met – in one instance the customer waited over two months for delivery
  • Unable to contact moving company to register complaints (unreturned calls
  • Driver threatened not to deliver goods unless excessive increase in charges paid and brought a Rottweiler dog with this to add to intimidation factor

Unfortunately stories like this are all too common especially when customers do not make an effort to find out if the company trying to obtain their move really is a reputable mover. Today there are far too many shady individuals preying on consumers. They place large ads in the yellow pages or have a fancy website and so consumers assume they must be reputable.moving2

A few of the things they generally don’t have are:

  • Clean, modern trucks and moving equipment
  • Trained personnel
  • Clean, palletized, secure and pest controlled warehouses
  • A track record for good service including legitimate testimonials
  • Proper insurance coverage for trucks, warehouse goods and cargo in transit
  • A willingness to settle claims and resolve problems to the customer’s satisfaction
  • Adherence to agreed pickup and delivery schedules
  • Appropriate compensation if shipment is late being delivered
  • A peer company at the destination location to assist the customer get settled
  • A “arms length” arbitrator to help settle problems if solution not reached with mover

These deficiencies are the main reason why these types of companies can offer their services at a very low price. Basically you are not getting much for your money and in many instances you are taking a terrible risk with all of your worldly possessions.  This is not to say that a small moving company cannot do a good job. What it does mean is that you should carefully check out the mover’s credentials. Don’t just accept the word of the salesman or the wording in their advertisements.

Another fact that most customers do not understand is that there is very little in the way of consumer protections laws in Canada or the United States when it comes to moving companies. This is one reason why reputable moving companies choose to affiliate their firms with one of the major national van lines. In Canada there are only four of these organizations. By doing so they become part of a larger, umbrella organization that oversees the quality of services offered by its agents. They ensure that only those companies who meet pre-set standards and remain financially solvent are allowed to be part of the van line. This kind of stability, emphasis on customer satisfaction and overall accountability are part of what you are paying for when you book a move with a van line affiliated agent. This is part of the “value” you receive for your moving dollars.

Alain Lambert is Director of Business Development for AMJ Campbell, Canada’s largest moving company. Alain can be reached at 905.284.0232 or at alambert@amjcampbell.com. AMJ Campbell’s website is located at www.amjcampbell.com.

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